01. because women can’t like action or science fiction
without there being any ~female~ things tied into it.I hate the reboot. I do. I love it for some reasons but I hate it. Arg I really can’t.
OUCH WOW WHAT FUCKING YEAR DO YOU THINK THIS IS LINDELOF
I FUCKING TRUSTED YOU MAN
~LOL HOW DO WE WOMEN? MAYBE WE SHOULD BABBY. YES BABBY GOOD IDEA, BRING WOMEN. ALL WOMEN BABBY. WOMEN DoN’T STORY OR CHARACTERS THAT IS FOR MANS. YES GOOD JOb WELL DONE MANS.
AND THIS WAS FIVE MINUTES INTO THE FIRST MEETING?
GENE AND MAJEL OUGHT TO COME THE FUCK BACK AND SLAP YOU ALL
….lmao is this a real thing
i really don’t understand where this myth that women don’t enjoy star trek came from? like, what sort of cave of delusion do you live in
who do you think dressed up for cons and published zines and drew fanart and wrote all the fanfiction and coined the term slash back when star trek was not a franchise but a little-watched sixties TV series that was cancelled after three seasons
we helped keep this thing going and we’ve been here all along, you’re just not looking
It’s been ages now, but I was an intern at a magazine when Star Trek (2009) was doing its press tour. I transcribed a similar quote from Lindelof, and in the process lost it very, very quietly in my cube. Then made my way to the reporter’s office, closed the door, and lost it loudly.
I mean, ffs. Who does he think SAVED THE SHOW? Who crafted one of the first successful letter writing campaigned? Who organized one of the first, legitimately successful TV Show-Specific cons? People who had a lot of time on their hands (in part by many of them being stay-at-home moms), and a lot of energy, and a lot of enthusiasm? Women.
Star Trek simply wouldn’t exist, much less exist as a property highly dependent on the enthusiasm of a small number of fans with highly soluble wallets — hell, modern fandom as we know it wouldn’t exist (we pre-date Star Wars after all) if it wasn’t for the geek culture women pioneered and crafted.
And him being so blind? And so dismissive at, well, frankly, the people that make his entire career, much less this specific job, possible? Man, I’m angry all over again.
Damon Lindelof is literally the biggest back of dicks around. Not only for this, but he’s a Roman Polanski apologist as well. Just a horrible, horrible travesty of a human being.
WOMEN STARTED YOUR PRECIOUS SCI-FI GENRE.
YOU WOULD HAVE NO STAR TREK WITHOUT US.
YOU WOULD HAVE NO VAST UNIVERSE TO EXPLORE WITHOUT US AND OUR WORDS AND OUR STORY AND OUR INGENUITY.
A 2010 Star Trek fandom survey that had over 5000 respondents had the fandom at 57% female, 43% male. It’s not exactly a scientific survey, but it’s better evidence than just stereotypes or “because I’m used to thinking of geek fandoms as majority male ones” assumptions.
Also, I think it’s pretty ridiculous that they were like “oh my god how do we get women to watch this?” and they never considered that their own sexist writing, focus on male heroes, having very few female characters, etc, might have anything to do with it. Nope. The best way to get women to watch is to have a birth scene where the destined hero is born! e_e
I rebloged that a while ago, but I saw it again and I still can’t get over it.
“We will not be successful in rebooting trek unless we can get women to enjoy the movie” Yeah because no women enjoyed original Trek at all, none.
